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Old Dec 08, 2008, 04:07 PM // 16:07   #1
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I just recently started doing some vanquish with my Necro and I'm feeling the need to throw my PC out the window on this area. Simply because on the groups with 2 protectors I can't outdamage their heals, hell I'm lucky if I even get to lower their HP to 80%. I've tried a number of solutions, always H/H'ing, I've been running with a heavy physical team suited for the build I bring along, curses btw.

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Talkhora, hybrid
Olias, MM
Gwen, tried shutdown, energy denial, interrupts, a few other builds...
Another Monk + Warrior or Ranger.

The 6 man limite is kind of a pain here, since the other areas I've vanquished always had 8. I have to rely on Olias for the physicals, otherwise it's just me and my spear.

Tried with Vekk as well, few other combinations, but I pure and simply cannot outdamage them. So I ask anyone whose done this area, any tips would be very apriciated, cause I can't even get past the very first group I encounter cause of the 2 monks... And there's groups with even more.
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Old Dec 08, 2008, 04:57 PM // 16:57   #2
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Enchat strips, lots of enchat strips.

[[rend enchantments] should leave them open to a quick takedown, provided your team build is solid.
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Old Dec 08, 2008, 05:09 PM // 17:09   #3
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Try a Broad Head Arrow hero.. I had no problems with the area.
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Old Dec 08, 2008, 05:20 PM // 17:20   #4
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See above posts. Something with a daze and strip enchaments.

Energy denial is pointless in PvE. Anet thinks its funny that casters can have infinate energy.
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Old Dec 08, 2008, 05:48 PM // 17:48   #5
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Since you said you're running curses and didn't mention your Elite... (I figure you're running SS)

[Lingering Curse] is the best bet, but [Pain of Disenchantment] coupled with Gaze or Rend would be nice as well. Regardless of your Elite choice, be sure to drop [Soul Barbs] on the target as well.

I play as a ranger, so BHA comes with me on every vanquish. You might consider bringing [Technobable] on your bar for an easier daze - its just much shorter lived.
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Old Dec 08, 2008, 07:29 PM // 19:29   #6
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Hi, when i did it, i did the whole thing from droks, with 8 man, also, if you having that much trouble, did you try cons???, from droks, you should be able to get 8 man group, also, have you tried from camp rankor, not sure but i think thats a 8 man party, if you need some help , i be glad to help you out, i run a ranger, can do all builds, and got all heroes maxed out, runed out, weaponed out, ussally on after 4:30 PM Eastern standard time ( usa), ign name is " Gwendolyn star '
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Old Dec 08, 2008, 08:01 PM // 20:01   #7
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How do you enter deldrimor bowl from droks without entering beacon's perch (which is a 6 man area) ?
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Old Dec 08, 2008, 08:54 PM // 20:54   #8
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Thanks for your help, I actually tried using Lingering Curse but I suppose I'll give it another try. Gonna try the BHA as well, tough conditions on this area are somewhat useless, since there's always at least 2 monks and each has [mend ailment] and [purge conditions], but Gwen might help me deal with the 2nd monk.
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Old Dec 08, 2008, 08:54 PM // 20:54   #9
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when i did it, i did the whole thing from droks, with 8 man,
wtf haxors? how did u get around beacons? besides, that would be one entirely too long vanquish.
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Old Dec 08, 2008, 10:29 PM // 22:29   #10
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first when i did it which was way over a year ago, i did the whole thing in like the day, from droks all the way to beacons, i left with 8 man, party, nothing but heroes and henchies, i used a few cons on the way, but did not have any mayor dificulties, i cannot remmber every exact detail, but due not remmber anything mayor complications, i was on my ranger, and usally run Broadhead arrow, always take a interupt mesmer, with me in hardmode, cuase truly shine in hardmode, if by any chance, when i mapped in any area the party shrunk , im not sure, or did not notice, cause i was on a roll.
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Old Dec 09, 2008, 12:13 AM // 00:13   #11
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Problem solved Snieves helped me out on that area, he knows what he's doing cutting through the mobs like butter. Done in little over an hour with no deaths, we had to waste about 15min searching for a group that we kept missing. Thanks for the help man
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Old Dec 09, 2008, 12:28 PM // 12:28   #12
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hey kupp

Np man, if you get stuck again, give me a holler, when i was working on my guardian and vaanquishers titles, there wasn't many ppl out there doing , them, so, i ended up ,hero / henching them. good luck

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Old Dec 11, 2008, 05:18 AM // 05:18   #13
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- To receive credit for the Vanquisher title track in this area you must defeat 150-208 monsters in Hard Mode.
- If you are having trouble finding the last few enemies, try checking near the portal to Griffon's Mouth. There is sometimes a group of Ettins on the other side of the portal. Once in radar view they should start running towards you and eventually just disappear, giving you the Vanquish for this area if they were the last in the area. The Centaurs also patrol the map quite a bit so you may have missed a few while vanquishing the area.
- The rare material trader will buy things. This makes caravan vanquishing and titan quests easier.
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Old Dec 11, 2008, 01:24 PM // 13:24   #14
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6 snow ettins on the other side of the portal, that wont come running.
They are too far away.
Had no problem vanquishing the area with 6 man, but i finaly resorted to wiki after making 3 passes around an empty map. This bug is BS. Vanquished everything on the map...and 6 Ettins from the other side of the portal wont let me vanquish the map?? Cant even flag hench on the other side of the portal to agro them. What a waste of time.
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Old Dec 12, 2008, 05:16 AM // 05:16   #15
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Ever since they buffed aura of faith that area has become ridicously hard, here how I did it: run in, hit sniper support, run out, repeat
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Old Dec 29, 2008, 05:34 AM // 05:34   #16
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oh lol, when i vanquished that area, i forgot enchant removals since i came in from a different area... I pretty much did it with lucky ebon vanguard sniper shots and energy attrition... needless to say it took a long time especially the double healer group w/ the healer boss >_< I had melee shutdown skills so I had a 15 minute deadlock fight until i could spike a healer that wandered out of the other monk's healing range.
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Old Dec 29, 2008, 09:27 PM // 21:27   #17
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Haha yea, if you go melee hate, this area will pwn you. That boss monk group is ridiculous. But with enchant removal or caster hate, this area isn't a problem.

But yea the normal triple necro build everyone loves definitely isn't the best option for this zone. I think i rolled with talkora prot hybrid, gwen and norgu as complete caster hate and rolled this zone.
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Old Dec 30, 2008, 11:53 PM // 23:53   #18
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rolled this with guildies, I was BHA ranger, we had necro, ele, warrior, derv, and one monk - all human players...not entirely sure on what all of their bars were as but nec was not MM...there were a couple of tough goat-boy healer groups, one in particular had 4 shiverpeak protectors - but they were a bit stray from the mob so not too much damage from them but we had to pick a target to spike...overall 2 party wipes and we used 1 grail of might at some point, but can't remember exactly...not too hard, but a couple of annoying spots. I that same monk boss (jolo lightlaunch) spawns in Anvil Rock, too, which I found out the hard way the next day with H/H...last group in vanq at the top of that hill, jolo and 2 protectors, 2 warriors, and longbow...a couple of wipes later and had to quit to get back to work ....LFG Anvil Rock vanq (LOL)
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Old Jan 06, 2009, 09:52 AM // 09:52   #19
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The ONLY way i was able to do it (some mobs even have 3 shiverpeak protectors) was Sniper Support mentioned above. This area is one of Anet's balance screwups. Getting down 3 Aura of Faith spammers seems to be nearly impossible.

Truly lovely area to vanquish...

Hit Sniper Shot ~ Ugh failed ... 15 secs ... Hit Sniper Shot ~ Ugh failed ... 15 secs ... Hit Sniper Shot ~ Ugh failed ... 15 secs ... Hit Sniper Shot ~ Ugh failed ... 15 secs ... Hit Sniper Shot ~ Ugh failed ... 15 secs ... Hit Sniper Shot ~ Ugh failed ... 15 secs ... Hit Sniper Shot ~ Ugh failed ... 15 secs ... Hit Sniper Shot ~ Ugh failed ... 15 secs ... Hit Sniper Shot ~ Ugh failed ... 15 secs ... Hit Sniper Shot ~ FINALLY!!! NEEEEXT protector! <repeat>

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Old Jan 07, 2009, 11:09 PM // 23:09   #20
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Haha just finished it it was real fun.Did it as a part of my caravan VQ cant imagine what it looks like when 6-manned O.O.
Did it with sabway+henchies+DS SY warrior(me).Started from ToA.
Only thing i say is don't give up and have fun at the 4 protectors group
BTW anet should really balance this area it's awful...
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